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Parker Haffey's avatar

Great article! Thanks for sharing.

I am a plastics engineer who specifically focuses on high performance polymers. Very familiar with PTFE as well as PVDF and PVF (other fluoropolymers). Mostly for aerospace applications. From an engineering/science perspective, all my favorite polymers are fluoropolymers. With that said, I abhor PFAS pollution and am unsure if responsible use of these chemicals is possible. I generally avoid fluoropolymer products in my day-to-day life.

Some thoughts below,

>>"Fluoropolymers fall into a broader category of chemicals called PFAS”<<

I would be careful to explain that fluoropolymers and items composed of fluoropolymers are very low risk. Teflon on its own is not that dangerous at all. I wish PFAS was not the term that ended up being popularized as it includes fluoropolymers as a rule. Some entities use this confusion to bypass environmental/health concerns—they can accurately say that Teflon is harmless and non-bio-accumulating, ignoring the fact that Teflon uses harmful perfluoroalkyl acids (PFAAs) in its manufacture and that Teflon decomposes into short-chain PFAS when burned. I think you hint as much in your article, but in my opinion, it’s a distinction worth making.

>>”Numerous brands including Klättermusen, Finisterre and Fjällräven have completely eliminated PFAS from their waterproofing technology (or never used them in the first place) — and all create products that perform at the highest level, in harsh conditions.”<<

I’m not an expert on outdoor garments, but I really doubt that anyone has a product which surpasses ePTFE in terms of a breathable, durable, water-resistant membrane. I’m sure their new ePE marketing materials might imply it is as good as ePTFE, but I don’t see how it could be.

The biggest problem with fluoropolymers, PTFE especially, is that it is unmatched by anything else. It’s not even an issue of the alternatives being more expensive—in many cases, there just are no alternatives capable of performing at the same level. While we might be able to say that waterproof jackets are not worth the PFAS, it is harder to say the same about medical implants or pharmaceutical processing equipment.

>>Technical outdoor clothing is the ultimate paradox — synthetic, fossil fuel-derived materials, sold as a necessity for stepping outside. An industry built on the belief that to experience nature, we must consume it.<<

I do not like synthetic textiles; most of my clothes are cotton. I am not big on hiking though—I understand cotton isn’t much good for it. Do you think wool is more ethical than oil-derived synthetics? Is wool a viable material for high performance applications? I would be very curious to hear your thoughts!

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Chris Nelson's avatar

Thanks Em, so many parallels with toxic Neoprene production and the surf industry… both the impact on the communities around the plants and the industry response as highlighted in The Big Sea documentary.

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